If you’re trying to kill four hours then you might want to check out Post Malone’s interview with Joe Rogan on his podcast. The “Circles” rapper told Rogan he hadn’t slept yet and Rogan mentioned that they were on a mushroom trip.

That led to a four-hour conversation about everything from whales to aliens. They did talk music, however, Post told the story of creating music while on microdoses of mushrooms.

“…you don’t really catch it until you do like 10 right off the rip,” he told Rogan. “But then I ate these chocolates the other day, these shroomies chocolates. And me and my producer Lou, we made a Coachella set for about two hours based off Roblox.”

Post also talked about how moving to Utah gave him peace and allowed him to focus on his art.

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